1 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:44,640 you 2 00:01:01,050 --> 00:00:59,580 well well welcome back to paying radio 3 00:01:03,180 --> 00:01:01,060 we're three minutes into the show and 4 00:01:04,530 --> 00:01:03,190 we're already having some technical 5 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:04,540 difficulties but we're here 6 00:01:08,340 --> 00:01:06,430 it would be like radio without some 7 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:08,350 technical difficulties with it right 8 00:01:10,620 --> 00:01:08,890 right 9 00:01:13,710 --> 00:01:10,630 you know that's the excitement all this 10 00:01:15,210 --> 00:01:13,720 fun stuff issues technical issues so 11 00:01:16,890 --> 00:01:15,220 welcome to the note show tonight we have 12 00:01:17,750 --> 00:01:16,900 an exciting one for you too tonight we 13 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:17,760 have on 14 00:01:22,950 --> 00:01:20,410 cryptozoologist and Bigfoot researcher 15 00:01:25,650 --> 00:01:22,960 marks ascii coming on to talk about his 16 00:01:27,780 --> 00:01:25,660 research and talk about you know 17 00:01:29,609 --> 00:01:27,790 cryptids out there that the government 18 00:01:32,010 --> 00:01:29,619 may be covering up so i mean there may 19 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:32,020 be some more stuff to Bigfoot then we 20 00:01:37,500 --> 00:01:34,930 don't know I I'm sure there's a ton of 21 00:01:40,410 --> 00:01:37,510 things about Bigfoot we don't know it's 22 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:40,420 it is a mystery that never ends right 23 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:42,640 right so we're gonna talk to mark 24 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:44,320 tonight and talk about his research and 25 00:01:50,460 --> 00:01:46,750 final you know what is really going on 26 00:01:51,630 --> 00:01:50,470 with that and I know bein Babur talking 27 00:01:53,310 --> 00:01:51,640 this week you know can go into a little 28 00:01:55,050 --> 00:01:53,320 bit news but I did you know share with 29 00:01:57,780 --> 00:01:55,060 Bob that bought the possibility of a 30 00:01:59,820 --> 00:01:57,790 hypernova occurring someday in our near 31 00:02:01,290 --> 00:01:59,830 future but pretty interesting stuff Bob 32 00:02:05,669 --> 00:02:01,300 did you take a look at that the other 33 00:02:10,050 --> 00:02:05,679 night no I didn't I'm sorry I was 34 00:02:13,140 --> 00:02:10,060 I actually I was kind of occupied the 35 00:02:14,610 --> 00:02:13,150 other night I was out hiking or actually 36 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:14,620 most of the day I was hiking and then 37 00:02:19,470 --> 00:02:16,780 when I got home I collapsed so where'd 38 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:19,480 you go and I c'n down here in Southern 39 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:24,130 California on the chaparral saw tons and 40 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:26,800 tons of deer that was a beautiful 41 00:02:32,430 --> 00:02:30,490 beautiful scenery for deer sawsan Bobcat 42 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:32,440 actually thought family Bobcat that was 43 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:34,750 out of school as a mother and couple 44 00:02:46,860 --> 00:02:42,490 Cubs and also I see he'll talk things 45 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:46,870 like that was very relaxing yeah and 46 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:48,490 I've been uh I've been hard at work we 47 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:50,650 had that big iPhone launch this week so 48 00:02:56,130 --> 00:02:54,010 um just you know working with the 49 00:02:58,530 --> 00:02:56,140 general public and pleasing them against 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:02:58,540 is the best as I can so that's that's 51 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:00,010 what I've been doing being real busy at 52 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:01,510 work so they you know I haven't been 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:04,959 able to do much on the other side but we 54 00:03:11,140 --> 00:03:06,410 just got a message 55 00:03:13,090 --> 00:03:11,150 music I already did we're just we're 56 00:03:15,580 --> 00:03:13,100 just a floating disaster tonight so oh 57 00:03:18,490 --> 00:03:15,590 you know it's fun no it's fine it's it's 58 00:03:19,990 --> 00:03:18,500 fun that's what this is it's always fun 59 00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:20,000 I'm gonna be putting some headsets on 60 00:03:28,660 --> 00:03:25,910 hopefully okay test you on there yeah 61 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:28,670 there you go okay we're here at paying 62 00:03:32,740 --> 00:03:30,290 rody tonight next week we do have the 63 00:03:36,790 --> 00:03:32,750 Irish ghost hunters on so any cases 64 00:03:39,870 --> 00:03:36,800 Marquez a ski I'm looking forward to to 65 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:39,880 talking with him they been across this 66 00:03:44,890 --> 00:03:41,810 Facebook page and he has some 67 00:03:49,150 --> 00:03:44,900 interesting things that I saw this 68 00:03:51,220 --> 00:03:49,160 afternoon regarding yeah he's you know 69 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:51,230 he takes a different approach to it to I 70 00:03:56,230 --> 00:03:53,090 mean he looks more like at the 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:56,240 scientific possibilities and no thinks 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:03:57,530 there are you know a lot of people 73 00:04:02,020 --> 00:04:00,050 covering up things that uh you know that 74 00:04:04,450 --> 00:04:02,030 we should be talking about but like I 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:04,460 said we uh you know we know a lot of 76 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:05,570 things are covered up and we're and 77 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:07,040 we're not we're not known as so we're 78 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:10,490 we're pretty used to that stuff so do 79 00:04:16,780 --> 00:04:14,090 you what have you been up to recently MJ 80 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:16,790 nothing I'm still working on a few MUFON 81 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:18,530 cases just kind of hanging in there and 82 00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:20,330 stuff like that and I'm trying to pull 83 00:04:24,370 --> 00:04:22,910 up some information on that that little 84 00:04:25,750 --> 00:04:24,380 hypernova we were talking about the 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:25,760 other night of course I can't pull a 86 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:29,090 name now my problem I saw that yesterday 87 00:04:34,090 --> 00:04:31,040 or the day before yesterday and my 88 00:04:37,870 --> 00:04:34,100 problem with that is I have never heard 89 00:04:41,470 --> 00:04:37,880 of all read about a hypernova supernova 90 00:04:45,730 --> 00:04:41,480 yes and know that yes that a hypernova 91 00:04:49,630 --> 00:04:45,740 know and also the prediction that that 92 00:04:51,310 --> 00:04:49,640 you you you discussed I think it had to 93 00:04:55,090 --> 00:04:51,320 do with gamma-ray bursts 94 00:04:56,380 --> 00:04:55,100 yes well I'm I'm scratching my head I'm 95 00:04:59,380 --> 00:04:56,390 not a physicist I'm not an 96 00:05:01,659 --> 00:04:59,390 astrophysicist but if something is 97 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:01,669 moving at the speed of light how would 98 00:05:09,940 --> 00:05:05,840 you have advance notice that there's a 99 00:05:13,030 --> 00:05:09,950 gamma burst coming soon I guess you 100 00:05:15,010 --> 00:05:13,040 don't if you were privileged to listen 101 00:05:17,650 --> 00:05:15,020 to art bells for our first show return 102 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:17,660 some of us so many of us did if you did 103 00:05:20,260 --> 00:05:20,000 listen but I don't recall his guess he 104 00:05:24,940 --> 00:05:20,270 is 105 00:05:26,890 --> 00:05:24,950 I guess from what I'm gathering you know 106 00:05:29,170 --> 00:05:26,900 a supernova is a star exploding you know 107 00:05:31,900 --> 00:05:29,180 what end of life you know implodes a 108 00:05:35,290 --> 00:05:31,910 hypernova is when two two of the stars 109 00:05:37,570 --> 00:05:35,300 collide in kazakh gamma bursts oh yeah 110 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:37,580 well that's a very rare of that for two 111 00:05:43,180 --> 00:05:39,680 stars to actually collide to usually 112 00:05:44,980 --> 00:05:43,190 what I'll do is the gravity is as a 113 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:44,990 barrier and they just spin around each 114 00:05:48,430 --> 00:05:46,250 other they're doing that they're doing 115 00:05:49,690 --> 00:05:48,440 it at the moment and looking at the 116 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:49,700 pictures you can kind of see the pattern 117 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:51,710 and they're spinning around but I mean 118 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:52,850 they're clubs 119 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:55,310 yep I've seen mathematical models where 120 00:05:59,530 --> 00:05:56,930 two stars are coming head-on to each 121 00:06:02,050 --> 00:05:59,540 other and as as they approach if they 122 00:06:03,790 --> 00:06:02,060 basically circle circle each other the 123 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:03,800 gravity yeah yeah so that's what they 124 00:06:08,020 --> 00:06:06,710 claim is going on you know uh and like I 125 00:06:11,140 --> 00:06:08,030 said I'd have to research the star 126 00:06:12,970 --> 00:06:11,150 system but it's they're going around in 127 00:06:15,940 --> 00:06:12,980 circles and eventually gonna collide and 128 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:15,950 what the the scientists are saying that 129 00:06:18,820 --> 00:06:17,600 the possibility of that gamma bursts 130 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:18,830 it's going to be coming towards our 131 00:06:24,420 --> 00:06:21,050 earth maybe with about a four-four 132 00:06:27,070 --> 00:06:24,430 degree uh for a four percent chance at 133 00:06:30,430 --> 00:06:27,080 earth but I mean that's it's all 134 00:06:32,590 --> 00:06:30,440 speculation yeah I was gonna ask whether 135 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:32,600 or not this was a prediction or a 136 00:06:37,510 --> 00:06:35,510 probability I think it's a probability I 137 00:06:39,490 --> 00:06:37,520 would I would I would side with that 138 00:06:40,690 --> 00:06:39,500 yeah said that is a problem the way I 139 00:06:42,850 --> 00:06:40,700 don't think I would get too worried 140 00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:42,860 about it yeah I'm gonna try to pull up 141 00:06:46,630 --> 00:06:44,630 some stuff and throw that in chat to you 142 00:06:48,010 --> 00:06:46,640 there it is let me throw up a link in 143 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:48,020 chat so I don't know if anybody else has 144 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:51,170 heard this in chat but let me throw up 145 00:06:55,860 --> 00:06:54,290 the Wikipedia and see what the listeners 146 00:06:58,180 --> 00:06:55,870 and the chat people think so I'm sure 147 00:07:02,980 --> 00:06:58,190 you know I made me aware just listening 148 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:02,990 to our bell there you know yeah I looked 149 00:07:10,570 --> 00:07:07,610 up of the binary star notice though you 150 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:10,580 there you are 104 yeah look that up and 151 00:07:17,590 --> 00:07:13,910 and right through that Wikipedia article 152 00:07:18,850 --> 00:07:17,600 and it looks like a normal binary star 153 00:07:21,820 --> 00:07:18,860 yep mm-hmm 154 00:07:24,130 --> 00:07:21,830 so so according to these this 155 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:24,140 researchers doctor that was on art bell 156 00:07:29,020 --> 00:07:27,170 the gamma ray that excuse me with gamma 157 00:07:32,170 --> 00:07:29,030 bursts would hit the earth take off 158 00:07:34,150 --> 00:07:32,180 about 50% of the ozone layer it wouldn't 159 00:07:36,430 --> 00:07:34,160 take us out right away but you 160 00:07:38,020 --> 00:07:36,440 we basically you know put us in a slow 161 00:07:42,310 --> 00:07:38,030 cooker for about two or three weeks kill 162 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:42,320 all vegetarian after everyone have to go 163 00:07:50,590 --> 00:07:44,170 underground so this is what I was Oh 164 00:07:52,870 --> 00:07:50,600 Merry Christmas MJ Christmas too worried 165 00:07:53,950 --> 00:07:52,880 about it yeah like you said how many how 166 00:07:56,770 --> 00:07:53,960 many times have they said we're gonna 167 00:07:58,540 --> 00:07:56,780 get hit by an asteroid or you know 168 00:08:01,630 --> 00:07:58,550 nuclear war I mean this is just 169 00:08:04,570 --> 00:08:01,640 we did have an asteroid combined I think 170 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:04,580 it was this last week and it came in 171 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:07,370 between the balloon and week or so 172 00:08:12,850 --> 00:08:10,250 although this is small ones episode of 173 00:08:15,450 --> 00:08:12,860 the car right yeah see I see that I 174 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:15,460 didn't I didn't catch that news Bob no I 175 00:08:21,460 --> 00:08:18,800 I I used to catch the news quite a bit 176 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:21,470 and I used to catch everything but I'm 177 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:23,330 lucky if I could catch a headline like 178 00:08:24,820 --> 00:08:24,530 that you're lucky you didn't catch a 179 00:08:28,540 --> 00:08:24,830 cold 180 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:28,550 we're cooling off up here in the 181 00:08:34,570 --> 00:08:30,050 Northland so it's getting bad up here 182 00:08:36,730 --> 00:08:34,580 but oh yeah oh I saw an interesting 183 00:08:43,209 --> 00:08:36,740 article this last week they impress my 184 00:08:45,990 --> 00:08:43,219 daughter with the two new species was 185 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:46,000 found and you're a believer it 186 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:51,310 what is it it was found at LAX really a 187 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:53,830 brand-new species 188 00:09:05,140 --> 00:09:02,590 are you kidding me no no a legless 189 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:05,150 lizard there's only a handful I think 190 00:09:12,070 --> 00:09:08,450 maybe three or four species of legless 191 00:09:14,740 --> 00:09:12,080 lizards in California and a brand new 192 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:14,750 species of legless lizard was found in 193 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:19,010 all the places at LAX on the tarmac I 194 00:09:26,980 --> 00:09:23,950 kid you not on the tarmac on the guy 195 00:09:28,930 --> 00:09:26,990 there's a pun but I'd kid you not it's a 196 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:28,940 true really I've never heard of a 197 00:09:33,490 --> 00:09:30,980 legless lizard it just you know it just 198 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:33,500 says that life is everywhere and not all 199 00:09:39,670 --> 00:09:37,490 of it is Catalan we there's so much life 200 00:09:42,579 --> 00:09:39,680 on our planet and we're still 201 00:09:45,670 --> 00:09:42,589 discovering that which you know has not 202 00:09:47,079 --> 00:09:45,680 been catalogued yeah that is right oh 203 00:09:47,769 --> 00:09:47,089 well ha what is the percentage on that 204 00:09:51,790 --> 00:09:47,779 still 205 00:09:54,030 --> 00:09:51,800 98% of all I wish I would have been 206 00:10:00,249 --> 00:09:54,040 discovered I think that's the number III 207 00:10:01,660 --> 00:10:00,259 wouldn't know it's very high number yeah 208 00:10:06,569 --> 00:10:01,670 well I'd like to do a shout out to all 209 00:10:10,030 --> 00:10:06,579 our listeners in Great Britain Ireland 210 00:10:11,439 --> 00:10:10,040 all over Europe Asia and Australia and 211 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:11,449 Canada but basically the whole world 212 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:12,769 thanks for listening and thanks for 213 00:10:17,019 --> 00:10:15,170 supporting inception radio network like 214 00:10:19,329 --> 00:10:17,029 to say hi to our chat friends my 215 00:10:20,049 --> 00:10:19,339 coworker Serafina how you doing and our 216 00:10:23,439 --> 00:10:20,059 regulars 217 00:10:25,509 --> 00:10:23,449 you got Rock Rachel and analog hole and 218 00:10:27,129 --> 00:10:25,519 Lorraine and the rest of everybody in 219 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:27,139 there good to see you back danger too 220 00:10:30,429 --> 00:10:28,430 good to see you back in chat 221 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:30,439 one more shuttle to Debra who's 222 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:32,600 listening when a fifth listener across 223 00:10:41,439 --> 00:10:34,689 the border in the enemy land they're 224 00:10:42,730 --> 00:10:41,449 okay yes yes I can well I guess you know 225 00:10:47,739 --> 00:10:42,740 we can probably bring mark and we got 226 00:10:49,119 --> 00:10:47,749 that pretty shallow start tonight and 227 00:10:50,340 --> 00:10:49,129 your time you ready well let me read his 228 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:50,350 file let me pull that up 229 00:10:54,189 --> 00:10:52,490 Mark's ascii has been inactive 230 00:10:56,290 --> 00:10:54,199 cryptozoologist and investigative 231 00:10:58,809 --> 00:10:56,300 journalists over 15 years he has spent 232 00:11:01,660 --> 00:10:58,819 tens of thousands of hours in the field 233 00:11:03,340 --> 00:11:01,670 on expeditions and incursions into the 234 00:11:04,569 --> 00:11:03,350 territories of the unknown investigating 235 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:04,579 ball Sasquatch and other unidentified 236 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:07,370 species he has interviewed hundreds of 237 00:11:10,389 --> 00:11:09,230 Bigfoot eyewitnesses on four different 238 00:11:13,210 --> 00:11:10,399 continents and has had several 239 00:11:15,220 --> 00:11:13,220 encounters of his own in 2001 he began 240 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:15,230 investigation into the possibility that 241 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:17,569 existence of species is being covered up 242 00:11:21,730 --> 00:11:19,250 by multiple government agencies and 243 00:11:24,429 --> 00:11:21,740 authoritative scientific organizations 244 00:11:25,929 --> 00:11:24,439 after concerning time and effort he 245 00:11:29,530 --> 00:11:25,939 recently released his findings and 246 00:11:32,650 --> 00:11:29,540 conclusions in a report entitled who 247 00:11:34,990 --> 00:11:32,660 decides what is real the report and all 248 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:35,000 the information contained in its points 249 00:11:40,329 --> 00:11:37,910 to his so a scientific martyr curry that 250 00:11:42,639 --> 00:11:40,339 has thus far managed to contain and 251 00:11:44,499 --> 00:11:42,649 support any of the physical evidence 252 00:11:46,389 --> 00:11:44,509 that has been obtained and found in the 253 00:11:48,850 --> 00:11:46,399 form of unknown species of human type 254 00:11:50,139 --> 00:11:48,860 being including DNA so what we're gonna 255 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:50,149 do we're gonna get mark on the line 256 00:11:56,319 --> 00:11:52,970 we're gonna talk some Bigfoot and we're 257 00:11:59,769 --> 00:11:56,329 gonna talk some species you know that we 258 00:12:00,430 --> 00:11:59,779 can okay we're gonna bring mark in let 259 00:12:03,670 --> 00:12:00,440 me grab him here 260 00:12:06,129 --> 00:12:03,680 we'll be right back and we'll provide 261 00:12:08,519 --> 00:12:06,139 market of the show so hang in there 262 00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:08,529 folks be right back 263 00:12:14,259 --> 00:12:11,750 and welcome back to paying radio and we 264 00:12:16,059 --> 00:12:14,269 have marx ascii cryptozoologists and 265 00:12:17,699 --> 00:12:16,069 Bigfoot research on our line welcome to 266 00:12:20,139 --> 00:12:17,709 the show mark hey Mark 267 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:20,149 preciate appreciate it good to be here 268 00:12:24,069 --> 00:12:22,730 good to be here mark so um I always like 269 00:12:26,590 --> 00:12:24,079 to start mark out what got you 270 00:12:28,090 --> 00:12:26,600 interested in you know the the cryptids 271 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:28,100 in in the Bigfoot well you know there's 272 00:12:31,619 --> 00:12:29,600 had to be a story behind all this can 273 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:31,629 you share that with our listeners 274 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:36,290 absolutely well I grew up in in 275 00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:40,370 Northeastern Ohio and there was always 276 00:12:45,249 --> 00:12:42,800 some kind of story from the southeastern 277 00:12:50,619 --> 00:12:45,259 portion of the state my family was all 278 00:12:52,990 --> 00:12:50,629 big deer hunters and you know it just 279 00:12:55,629 --> 00:12:53,000 was a common topic I remember vividly 280 00:12:57,579 --> 00:12:55,639 when I was about seven I think a movie 281 00:13:00,220 --> 00:12:57,589 called sasquatch er or I think was 282 00:13:02,619 --> 00:13:00,230 sasquatch came out and we paid those 283 00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:02,629 snuck in in and went to go see it my 284 00:13:05,290 --> 00:13:03,860 parents didn't know where darlin but 285 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:05,300 from that day on I was hooked on the 286 00:13:11,949 --> 00:13:09,290 idea and just fascinated by the subject 287 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:11,959 and not only that but from an early age 288 00:13:20,199 --> 00:13:16,850 I was intrigued with the the attitude 289 00:13:22,090 --> 00:13:20,209 that science had regarding it so that's 290 00:13:23,650 --> 00:13:22,100 kind of where it all started you know 291 00:13:26,319 --> 00:13:23,660 when I was a kid you know 292 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:26,329 yeah go ahead Bob you're you were aghast 293 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:30,050 or shocked that science was not using 294 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:32,000 using the opportunity to investigate 295 00:13:38,620 --> 00:13:35,649 whether rather than just cover it off 296 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:38,630 well at that time I wasn't you know I 297 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:42,050 wasn't really aware of of you know so 298 00:13:47,319 --> 00:13:43,610 many of the things that I'm aware of now 299 00:13:49,389 --> 00:13:47,329 and have been for so long but you know 300 00:13:51,429 --> 00:13:49,399 at that time it was more like you know I 301 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:51,439 don't understand why this isn't you know 302 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:53,360 important I mean I'm learning about you 303 00:13:59,110 --> 00:13:55,970 know the potential or the possibility of 304 00:14:00,759 --> 00:13:59,120 a missing link in school and it just 305 00:14:02,410 --> 00:14:00,769 seems to me I mean I'm you know eight 306 00:14:03,970 --> 00:14:02,420 years old and I'm thinking that like why 307 00:14:05,829 --> 00:14:03,980 are they not looking into this this is 308 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:05,839 an essentially the missing link you know 309 00:14:11,170 --> 00:14:08,689 for evolution so it never made any sense 310 00:14:14,050 --> 00:14:11,180 to me you know growing up that you know 311 00:14:15,580 --> 00:14:14,060 they would say that you know the forest 312 00:14:19,410 --> 00:14:15,590 couldn't support an animal that size 313 00:14:22,420 --> 00:14:19,420 when supposedly from what they say 314 00:14:27,190 --> 00:14:22,430 thousands and in tribes and in plans of 315 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:27,200 loss existed on in those same regions so 316 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:28,730 you know they just always made sense to 317 00:14:34,270 --> 00:14:31,610 me that it was real you know you know 318 00:14:36,460 --> 00:14:34,280 mark this is MJ - I uh but Ron the same 319 00:14:38,290 --> 00:14:36,470 age I I just happened to get fascinated 320 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:38,300 with that and go to the library and you 321 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:39,890 know and there was that little row in 322 00:14:43,450 --> 00:14:41,390 the corner where they had your Bigfoot 323 00:14:45,970 --> 00:14:43,460 in your and usual stuff and I'd always 324 00:14:46,990 --> 00:14:45,980 rent them out and people would the kids 325 00:14:48,310 --> 00:14:47,000 would always look at me like why are you 326 00:14:50,020 --> 00:14:48,320 reading that stuff I go yeah I don't 327 00:14:51,610 --> 00:14:50,030 know you know that because it could be 328 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:51,620 real we don't know I mean it just to me 329 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:53,690 it always was fascinated me that there 330 00:14:57,220 --> 00:14:55,130 were books out there about a creature 331 00:14:59,500 --> 00:14:57,230 you know that supposedly doesn't doesn't 332 00:15:01,090 --> 00:14:59,510 exist I just been fascinated myself I 333 00:15:03,730 --> 00:15:01,100 mean since the pulp the same age I just 334 00:15:05,350 --> 00:15:03,740 can't believe that science doesn't open 335 00:15:08,350 --> 00:15:05,360 its mind and actually you know look into 336 00:15:10,990 --> 00:15:08,360 this you know scientifically well you 337 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:11,000 know I mean over the years you know my 338 00:15:14,590 --> 00:15:12,650 fascination kind of grew with that but 339 00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:14,600 then with like everybody else I mean 340 00:15:19,420 --> 00:15:17,360 life takes on its whatever it is and you 341 00:15:21,310 --> 00:15:19,430 know I went in the military when I was 342 00:15:26,020 --> 00:15:21,320 17 I actually turned 18 in basic 343 00:15:28,630 --> 00:15:26,030 training and and you know I got focused 344 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:28,640 on a new you know a whole new you know 345 00:15:34,270 --> 00:15:31,310 paradigm in my life and and it was you 346 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:34,280 know it wasn't something that that was 347 00:15:38,290 --> 00:15:36,530 very positive for me being the type of 348 00:15:41,230 --> 00:15:38,300 person I'm I'm very creative and I'm 349 00:15:44,410 --> 00:15:41,240 very artistic and very science minded at 350 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:44,420 the same time so it kind of that kind of 351 00:15:49,570 --> 00:15:46,370 stirred me up inside the whole thing of 352 00:15:53,410 --> 00:15:49,580 the military book coming out you know I 353 00:15:55,930 --> 00:15:53,420 my parents moved us down here in 79 in 354 00:15:59,680 --> 00:15:55,940 Florida in South Florida I'm from West 355 00:16:02,530 --> 00:15:59,690 Palm Beach area okay and back then most 356 00:16:05,710 --> 00:16:02,540 of where we lived were dirt roads and 357 00:16:08,590 --> 00:16:05,720 and swampy forests and it was still very 358 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:08,600 much undeveloped and when I got down 359 00:16:14,170 --> 00:16:11,110 here the first year uh never forget it 360 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:14,180 we came to live on a ranch with my aunt 361 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:16,010 and uncle they owned Arabian horses and 362 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:18,110 they had a huge property and it was 363 00:16:23,740 --> 00:16:20,930 surrounded by you know real thick jungle 364 00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:23,750 canopy you know and and it was in an 365 00:16:27,190 --> 00:16:26,000 area that was very undeveloped and there 366 00:16:31,210 --> 00:16:27,200 were always 367 00:16:33,850 --> 00:16:31,220 stories you know about the horses you 368 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:33,860 know being scratched or killed or you 369 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:36,770 know dragged off and and I remember that 370 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:39,770 you know so that was like one of those 371 00:16:42,700 --> 00:16:41,360 things that just kind of add it to it 372 00:16:44,410 --> 00:16:42,710 and I've always kept track of all that 373 00:16:46,540 --> 00:16:44,420 stuff you know for some reason in the 374 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:46,550 back online but that's that's really 375 00:16:52,570 --> 00:16:49,730 where it all started with me right right 376 00:16:54,070 --> 00:16:52,580 yeah that's uh you know it just makes 377 00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:54,080 you think you know what is really out 378 00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:57,680 there now now did you decide to at a 379 00:17:01,000 --> 00:16:59,360 certain age start a team or really get 380 00:17:02,350 --> 00:17:01,010 into a deep into the research and you 381 00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:02,360 want to kind of fill us in when it's 382 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:07,190 really started to get heavy well I like 383 00:17:11,890 --> 00:17:09,079 everybody else pretty much I mean when I 384 00:17:13,569 --> 00:17:11,900 knew about it was from what I saw on 385 00:17:17,050 --> 00:17:13,579 television or what I heard in the news 386 00:17:19,900 --> 00:17:17,060 and I was always disenchanted with the 387 00:17:21,310 --> 00:17:19,910 way the report was you know the 388 00:17:23,260 --> 00:17:21,320 witnesses seemed like they were always 389 00:17:26,650 --> 00:17:23,270 being discredited before the report was 390 00:17:29,500 --> 00:17:26,660 even mm-hmm no covered it was you know I 391 00:17:32,860 --> 00:17:29,510 noticed things I was very sharp like 392 00:17:34,660 --> 00:17:32,870 that I always noticed the words that 393 00:17:37,180 --> 00:17:34,670 people use when they described accounts 394 00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:37,190 and and so it for some reason it always 395 00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:39,670 stuck with me and when I originally fir 396 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,030 for getting into the research was and 397 00:17:48,370 --> 00:17:45,440 welcome back to paying radio we lost 398 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:48,380 mark and Bob so we are back with both 399 00:17:53,470 --> 00:17:51,290 mark and Bob mark mentioned that this 400 00:17:56,409 --> 00:17:53,480 happens on occasion to him whenever he 401 00:18:03,130 --> 00:17:56,419 live show so this is uh it's all your 402 00:18:04,780 --> 00:18:03,140 fault mark yeah yeah so mark where did 403 00:18:05,799 --> 00:18:04,790 we leave off you were talking about you 404 00:18:07,150 --> 00:18:05,809 know when you were starting your 405 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:07,160 research and stuff like that so if you 406 00:18:10,539 --> 00:18:08,480 wanna I'm trying to think where we left 407 00:18:14,110 --> 00:18:10,549 off but if you can kind of recall how we 408 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:14,120 started how you got into it well really 409 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:16,130 what kind of shoe of the deal for me was 410 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:19,840 when I was about 17 I had a friend 411 00:18:24,010 --> 00:18:22,370 yeah it's Lauren I grew up running 412 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:24,020 around barefoot in the canals in the 413 00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:26,090 rural areas and you know we survived 414 00:18:30,130 --> 00:18:27,919 ATC's in third place we were constantly 415 00:18:32,350 --> 00:18:30,140 in the outdoors like way as far as we 416 00:18:34,810 --> 00:18:32,360 could get away from where we you know 417 00:18:36,580 --> 00:18:34,820 we're living was where we were I mean we 418 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:36,590 take our fishing poles back at lunch and 419 00:18:39,970 --> 00:18:38,090 we were gone so it's fun came that you 420 00:18:42,460 --> 00:18:39,980 know went down and then trying to find 421 00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:42,470 our way home basically but I had a 422 00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:44,900 friend that his mother actually they 423 00:18:50,590 --> 00:18:47,600 were out picking air plants in an area 424 00:18:52,180 --> 00:18:50,600 that was really undeveloped off of PGA 425 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:52,190 Boulevard it's actually right now it's 426 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:54,410 PGA National where Tiger Woods plays 427 00:19:01,409 --> 00:18:59,090 stall okay but she if she was very 428 00:19:03,940 --> 00:19:01,419 shaken up and she said that a monkey man 429 00:19:05,409 --> 00:19:03,950 had come down out of a tree that they 430 00:19:06,940 --> 00:19:05,419 were gonna pick an airplane out up and 431 00:19:08,740 --> 00:19:06,950 chase them off that all the way back to 432 00:19:12,130 --> 00:19:08,750 their truck and that it physically 433 00:19:14,169 --> 00:19:12,140 chased them and and she was not someone 434 00:19:16,060 --> 00:19:14,179 actually the woman freaked me out most 435 00:19:19,210 --> 00:19:16,070 the time because she was a very serious 436 00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:19,220 person and and you know I think she may 437 00:19:23,470 --> 00:19:22,190 be viewed me as like you know a bad 438 00:19:25,210 --> 00:19:23,480 influence on our son for those 439 00:19:27,310 --> 00:19:25,220 constantly taking him you know with me 440 00:19:30,220 --> 00:19:27,320 out and we were gone for a you know 10 441 00:19:32,530 --> 00:19:30,230 15 hours so but I believed her you know 442 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:32,540 and he was shook up he was with her so 443 00:19:36,549 --> 00:19:34,970 like from that minute on I was that's 444 00:19:38,350 --> 00:19:36,559 what I really started looking into and I 445 00:19:41,020 --> 00:19:38,360 anything I could get my hands on I I 446 00:19:44,860 --> 00:19:41,030 studied vigorously and and I really 447 00:19:47,980 --> 00:19:44,870 found that everything I looked at left 448 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:47,990 me with nothing but questions and very 449 00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:49,490 few answers and I think that you know 450 00:19:53,770 --> 00:19:52,070 that was and still to this day a lot of 451 00:19:56,740 --> 00:19:53,780 what we see is to like that it's the 452 00:19:59,620 --> 00:19:56,750 nature of it is that you know because we 453 00:20:01,690 --> 00:19:59,630 rely on mainstream science for solid 454 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:01,700 answers and I was seeing that 455 00:20:05,649 --> 00:20:03,890 correlation even back then that you know 456 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:05,659 these people aren't even looking into 457 00:20:08,530 --> 00:20:07,370 this and you know I know 458 00:20:09,910 --> 00:20:08,540 people who've seen it you know I know 459 00:20:12,150 --> 00:20:09,920 this thing is real stout of you out 460 00:20:14,770 --> 00:20:12,160 there so you know I had an attitude 461 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:14,780 already you know I started to develop it 462 00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:16,850 sort of an attitude with mainstream 463 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:18,559 science because there were so many holes 464 00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:20,690 in so many of the things that they were 465 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:23,150 teaching us and things were constantly 466 00:20:28,510 --> 00:20:26,570 changing so for me it was it was always 467 00:20:33,370 --> 00:20:28,520 a very serious subject from that time on 468 00:20:35,770 --> 00:20:33,380 and serious research wise you know I 469 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:35,780 didn't start even going into the field 470 00:20:43,210 --> 00:20:40,370 until probably about five years ago okay 471 00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:43,220 I did almost all of my research on 472 00:20:51,820 --> 00:20:47,120 existing databases of sightings 473 00:20:54,730 --> 00:20:51,830 sightings databases and in maps and I 474 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:54,740 developed my own theories on you know 475 00:20:58,150 --> 00:20:56,570 where they would come and where they 476 00:20:59,770 --> 00:20:58,160 would be or where I could potentially go 477 00:21:02,260 --> 00:20:59,780 find you know evidence that they were in 478 00:21:04,570 --> 00:21:02,270 the area based off of what I read and 479 00:21:08,530 --> 00:21:04,580 learned from the sightings catalog that 480 00:21:10,330 --> 00:21:08,540 we had primarily I studied a lot on the 481 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:10,340 BFRO but there were several other ones 482 00:21:16,180 --> 00:21:13,610 and you know specially here in the state 483 00:21:17,730 --> 00:21:16,190 of Florida because really it's not as 484 00:21:20,260 --> 00:21:17,740 undeveloped as it used to be I mean 485 00:21:22,780 --> 00:21:20,270 agriculture down here boomed in the in 486 00:21:24,820 --> 00:21:22,790 the 50s and the 60s and a lot of that 487 00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,830 you know swampy area that was you know 488 00:21:29,410 --> 00:21:26,480 they would run around and back in those 489 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:29,420 days was just basically destroyed and 490 00:21:33,549 --> 00:21:32,210 the sugarcane industry came in and in 491 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:33,559 and they you know for certain 492 00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:35,450 agriculture in that area and there were 493 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:37,910 a lot of farms in western Palm Beach 494 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:39,770 County at that time as well food farms 495 00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:42,770 and in like I said horse ranches and so 496 00:21:48,130 --> 00:21:45,679 you know my theory started to develop in 497 00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:48,140 in Florida specifically with that 498 00:21:54,910 --> 00:21:51,440 because I saw proof that they were 499 00:21:58,150 --> 00:21:54,920 actually you know encountering humans 500 00:22:01,480 --> 00:21:58,160 most of the time near human habitations 501 00:22:04,780 --> 00:22:01,490 and and having interaction with with 502 00:22:06,580 --> 00:22:04,790 human habitations and agriculture so you 503 00:22:08,890 --> 00:22:06,590 know for me to you know take that point 504 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:08,900 of view when I went online I started a 505 00:22:12,970 --> 00:22:11,090 research and I would you know hear most 506 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:12,980 of what people would say about how you 507 00:22:17,410 --> 00:22:14,510 had to go way out in the forest that 508 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:17,420 wasn't true for me you know my research 509 00:22:20,980 --> 00:22:19,610 was completely the opposite and it was 510 00:22:23,140 --> 00:22:20,990 mainly because they really 511 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:23,150 have no choice down here we are 512 00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:25,130 infringing absolutely on their 513 00:22:29,620 --> 00:22:27,679 territories and and you know my 514 00:22:33,250 --> 00:22:29,630 encounters in the state of Florida have 515 00:22:35,470 --> 00:22:33,260 all been within I would say either a 516 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:35,480 thousand yards of a forest ranger 517 00:22:40,990 --> 00:22:38,330 station or a thousand yards of a major 518 00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:41,000 highway and and communities and 519 00:22:46,060 --> 00:22:43,070 apartments and and I know that sounds 520 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:46,070 crazy but those areas are on the western 521 00:22:51,730 --> 00:22:49,610 edge of Palm Beach County and and it's 522 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:51,740 where basically the human navigations 523 00:22:58,120 --> 00:22:54,530 end and the State Park preserves begin 524 00:23:00,430 --> 00:22:58,130 and those are you know those are the 525 00:23:02,770 --> 00:23:00,440 facts I mean I it's shocking to me and 526 00:23:05,169 --> 00:23:02,780 it was very shocking when I started to 527 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:05,179 take my theories and put them into 528 00:23:10,930 --> 00:23:08,570 practical you know field practice and 529 00:23:13,660 --> 00:23:10,940 and that was you know the results but I 530 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:13,670 mean on my first five expeditions I had 531 00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:16,370 four encounters and and you know got 532 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:18,140 significant evidence that they were in 533 00:23:23,770 --> 00:23:21,050 the area and very close proximity to 534 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:23,780 human human habitations mark I have a 535 00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:29,210 question as urban areas encroach on 536 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:34,630 rural areas and you start to squeeze out 537 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:37,990 species that was so like mountain lion 538 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:42,170 you'll eventually catch a story were our 539 00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:45,410 mountain lion miles a child or we'll 540 00:23:49,380 --> 00:23:47,360 take our pets or whatever they're like 541 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:49,390 that do you ever see that happening with 542 00:23:54,790 --> 00:23:52,370 the Bigfoot where we're encroaching on 543 00:23:58,570 --> 00:23:54,800 their territory in such a way that the 544 00:24:00,190 --> 00:23:58,580 world we are well I research actually 545 00:24:02,740 --> 00:24:00,200 gravitates towards those type of 546 00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:02,750 encounters and you know the fact is and 547 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:04,820 if you did log onto the BFRO database 548 00:24:10,030 --> 00:24:07,850 and you searched their florida florida 549 00:24:12,850 --> 00:24:10,040 sightings map and started to read 550 00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:12,860 encounters the there are quite a few 551 00:24:16,660 --> 00:24:14,960 there more than you would you'd be 552 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:16,670 surprised how many of our violent 553 00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:20,690 interactions and including like that 554 00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:22,880 border on the ridiculous like you know 555 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:25,600 we've had reports from semi tractor 556 00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:28,370 tractor trailers truckers you know 557 00:24:33,850 --> 00:24:30,710 pulled over at rest areas their can 558 00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:33,860 smashed out of their cabs and and trying 559 00:24:36,919 --> 00:24:34,559 to be you know 560 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:36,929 carried off and I mean there's there are 561 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:40,289 quite a few the best report on record 562 00:24:44,090 --> 00:24:41,490 here in the state of Florida that I 563 00:24:47,210 --> 00:24:44,100 really think is there's two of them one 564 00:24:50,869 --> 00:24:47,220 is from a highway patrolman who was on 565 00:24:52,850 --> 00:24:50,879 i-75 which basically runs across the 566 00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:52,860 state of Florida through the Everglades 567 00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:55,529 and then back north on the rest first 568 00:24:59,389 --> 00:24:56,940 floor its back north 569 00:25:01,940 --> 00:24:59,399 when we're on i-75 in the North Pacific 570 00:25:04,909 --> 00:25:01,950 but I read the police report myself from 571 00:25:08,389 --> 00:25:04,919 the actual Department of Highway Patrol 572 00:25:10,249 --> 00:25:08,399 that it was right around dusk use on 573 00:25:15,529 --> 00:25:10,259 i-75 this is going back I think it was 574 00:25:18,649 --> 00:25:15,539 77 or 78 but he had you know turned his 575 00:25:19,940 --> 00:25:18,659 lights on and he was approaching a car 576 00:25:21,769 --> 00:25:19,950 that appeared to be full available 577 00:25:24,590 --> 00:25:21,779 thought it was a breakdown and when he 578 00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:24,600 got to the scene he saw seven to eight 579 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:28,289 foot humanly basically trying to tear 580 00:25:32,690 --> 00:25:30,570 the front end off the car and there was 581 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:32,700 an old man inside that had a death grip 582 00:25:38,389 --> 00:25:35,490 on the steering wheel and in this thing 583 00:25:41,090 --> 00:25:38,399 was intent on doing harm so he basically 584 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:41,100 drew his weapon and I think fired nine 585 00:25:46,970 --> 00:25:45,090 shots into the into the creature it 586 00:25:49,940 --> 00:25:46,980 bounded off the side of the road jumped 587 00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:49,950 the fence and and took off into the 588 00:25:53,869 --> 00:25:52,110 swamp and that is often an official 589 00:25:58,279 --> 00:25:53,879 police report was signed by the witness 590 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:58,289 well and no [\h__\h] knows oh yeah man you 591 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:01,440 know that the saddest thing about this 592 00:26:06,830 --> 00:26:03,450 and this is this is really what led me 593 00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:06,840 to my current field you know the current 594 00:26:11,180 --> 00:26:08,580 side of the research that I've been 595 00:26:15,379 --> 00:26:11,190 doing for the last couple years reports 596 00:26:19,070 --> 00:26:15,389 like this cannot go unnoticed and 597 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:19,080 somehow they have by the mainstream 598 00:26:25,639 --> 00:26:22,769 media by you know apparently by 599 00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:25,649 mainstream science but you know it 600 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:28,769 strikes me as odd and it always did the 601 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:30,210 officials wouldn't look further into 602 00:26:35,509 --> 00:26:31,730 this type of thing 603 00:26:38,299 --> 00:26:35,519 obviously if a nuisance raccoon is of 604 00:26:40,930 --> 00:26:38,309 importance to park officials seven to 605 00:26:44,629 --> 00:26:40,940 nine phenomena that's ripping apart a 606 00:26:47,810 --> 00:26:44,639 real person's car yeah and then it's 607 00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,820 been shot by a highway patrolman is 608 00:26:52,099 --> 00:26:49,679 credible exciting you know yeah and 609 00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:52,109 doesn't it doesn't go down I mean you 610 00:26:58,940 --> 00:26:55,590 you get you live a human with one or two 611 00:27:01,549 --> 00:26:58,950 shots go down there don't really this 612 00:27:05,299 --> 00:27:01,559 this thing what you was shot nine times 613 00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:05,309 and had them enough energy to bound you 614 00:27:09,289 --> 00:27:07,590 said I described it as bounding that was 615 00:27:12,109 --> 00:27:09,299 actually the word he uses it found it 616 00:27:13,580 --> 00:27:12,119 and you know Danny and you could tell 617 00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:13,590 that the police officers were shook up 618 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:15,929 and in the report but that's just one 619 00:27:20,659 --> 00:27:19,289 and as you begin to do research the the 620 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:20,669 other one that I wanted to tell you 621 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:24,090 about was five archaeologists and 622 00:27:27,979 --> 00:27:26,190 anthropologists so you know two of them 623 00:27:30,409 --> 00:27:27,989 are archaeologists the real an apologist 624 00:27:32,719 --> 00:27:30,419 River scenario there was there were five 625 00:27:36,739 --> 00:27:32,729 of them and they were studying Native 626 00:27:39,229 --> 00:27:36,749 American ancient burial mounds in the 627 00:27:42,109 --> 00:27:39,239 Everglades and their entire encampment 628 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:42,119 was raided and destroyed by a seven to 629 00:27:46,639 --> 00:27:44,369 nine foot hominid they all described it 630 00:27:49,070 --> 00:27:46,649 to park officials they all were very 631 00:27:50,289 --> 00:27:49,080 sure about what they saw they defending 632 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:50,299 long gray hair 633 00:27:56,869 --> 00:27:53,970 I'm thinking maybe was an older one 634 00:27:59,359 --> 00:27:56,879 it was obviously pissed off and you know 635 00:28:01,460 --> 00:27:59,369 my subsequent requests with those park 636 00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:01,470 officials to produce that report have 637 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:04,289 been denied and and and that we're 638 00:28:07,580 --> 00:28:06,090 talking about you know mainstream 639 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:07,590 scientists that have absolutely no 640 00:28:12,529 --> 00:28:10,799 reason to discredit themselves by 641 00:28:15,139 --> 00:28:12,539 stating something like that producing 642 00:28:16,909 --> 00:28:15,149 this report so you know and that's just 643 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:16,919 two of them I mean like I said this you 644 00:28:22,969 --> 00:28:18,690 know I looked over a lot of sightings 645 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:22,979 and in different states and for one 646 00:28:28,639 --> 00:28:25,529 reason or another most of the violent 647 00:28:30,489 --> 00:28:28,649 encounters that I've read at all of your 648 00:28:38,509 --> 00:28:30,499 data bases are from the state of Florida 649 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:38,519 Wow wow that was my next question with 650 00:28:42,580 --> 00:28:40,529 with obviously all the sightings across 651 00:28:45,469 --> 00:28:42,590 the United States 652 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:45,479 the violent encounters are coming out of 653 00:28:51,019 --> 00:28:48,210 Florida you're going hmm this is a 654 00:28:52,899 --> 00:28:51,029 cultural thing going on here well you 655 00:28:55,489 --> 00:28:52,909 know I mean that dick also too you know 656 00:28:57,169 --> 00:28:55,499 the atmosphere down here it's like 657 00:28:58,580 --> 00:28:57,179 breathing underwater man in the 658 00:29:01,700 --> 00:28:58,590 summertime I'm standing outside my 659 00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:01,710 apartment right now and it's 660 00:29:08,090 --> 00:29:04,230 across the 90 degrees and it's probably 661 00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:08,100 98% humidity and it's just uncomfortable 662 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:11,039 it's just to stand here you know I 663 00:29:17,450 --> 00:29:14,250 couldn't imagine if I had fun all over 664 00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:17,460 you you know I mean and no place to 665 00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:20,460 bathe and you know there's a myriad of 666 00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:22,020 things that would make you aggravated 667 00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:24,559 living in this environment outside oh 668 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:27,750 yeah but i stanch your question a little 669 00:29:32,090 --> 00:29:30,090 more thoroughly I think that I think 670 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:32,100 that there's a combination of factors 671 00:29:34,820 --> 00:29:33,690 involved in why there are violent 672 00:29:36,350 --> 00:29:34,830 encounters down here I think the 673 00:29:40,580 --> 00:29:36,360 encroachment on territories that have 674 00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:40,590 been well used in the past is probably 675 00:29:44,299 --> 00:29:42,720 one you know reason for why that's 676 00:29:48,019 --> 00:29:44,309 happening down here and has been and 677 00:29:50,889 --> 00:29:48,029 probably will continue to you know but 678 00:29:54,740 --> 00:29:50,899 then again the Park Service and the 679 00:29:56,299 --> 00:29:54,750 Department of the Interior has come down 680 00:29:58,340 --> 00:29:56,309 here in the last thirty years since 681 00:30:02,029 --> 00:29:58,350 those accounts really started to wrap up 682 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:02,039 and borrow up tremendous tracts of land 683 00:30:08,299 --> 00:30:04,770 and just beam them off-limits to the 684 00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:08,309 public and I've been in so many of these 685 00:30:12,889 --> 00:30:10,380 tracts of land down here where you're 686 00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:12,899 not really supposed to be for one reason 687 00:30:17,419 --> 00:30:15,240 or another they never give you an excuse 688 00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:17,429 that's just units off limits you know 689 00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,580 and and it makes no sense but you know 690 00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:23,039 when you go in there and this is the 691 00:30:27,529 --> 00:30:25,950 strangest of all the the research that 692 00:30:31,310 --> 00:30:27,539 I've done that probably the strangest 693 00:30:34,909 --> 00:30:31,320 thing that consistently happens is that 694 00:30:37,610 --> 00:30:34,919 I'm buzzed by choppers I am under 695 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:37,620 surveillance aircraft going all through 696 00:30:42,350 --> 00:30:39,510 these places and I don't know if they've 697 00:30:44,269 --> 00:30:42,360 got it wired but I could tell you within 698 00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:44,279 15 minutes of setting foot inside these 699 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:47,279 areas you are being told to leave by a 700 00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,370 chopper Wow and that's a fact it's 701 00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:52,559 happened to me dozens of times and it's 702 00:30:57,049 --> 00:30:54,510 been happening to me almost all my life 703 00:30:58,909 --> 00:30:57,059 down here because when I came in the 70s 704 00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:58,919 and 80s was when they first started to 705 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:02,159 set the size of charcoal inside so you 706 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:03,330 know of course I didn't put any of that 707 00:31:07,370 --> 00:31:05,370 stuff together back then but you know 708 00:31:09,980 --> 00:31:07,380 I'm a firm believer that you know none 709 00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:09,990 of this was coincidental I mean that's 710 00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:13,440 probably you know the reason most of 711 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:15,510 this goes uninvestigated was 712 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:16,410 because people chalk it up to 713 00:31:20,270 --> 00:31:17,850 coincidence they don't report things 714 00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:20,280 they don't investigate and it's all you 715 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:22,950 know I hope you Pokey to them but you 716 00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:24,510 know I'm a firm believer that nothing is 717 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:25,440 a coincidence 718 00:31:30,650 --> 00:31:28,170 there's a reason for this you know and 719 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:30,660 and I don't know that necessarily that's 720 00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:32,250 the reason that they're trying to keep 721 00:31:36,290 --> 00:31:34,230 these things back but I can tell you 722 00:31:39,140 --> 00:31:36,300 this much in those parts that have been 723 00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:39,150 satisfied there are a tremendous amount 724 00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:43,140 of sightings by Park officials by people 725 00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:46,200 that you know frequent the park myself 726 00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:49,200 included and these people are fully 727 00:31:52,790 --> 00:31:51,390 aware that this is going on and that 728 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:52,800 these things aren't in there the people 729 00:31:58,430 --> 00:31:55,890 that work there the biologists the Park 730 00:31:59,870 --> 00:31:58,440 Rangers they all know what's going on I 731 00:32:02,780 --> 00:31:59,880 talked to dozens of them across the 732 00:32:06,770 --> 00:32:02,790 state of Florida and and you know it's 733 00:32:09,890 --> 00:32:06,780 just to me it's a crime it's a crime you 734 00:32:13,610 --> 00:32:09,900 know because the bottom line is is if 735 00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:13,620 this is what we think it is so in other 736 00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:23,160 species of human mark but my my pet 737 00:32:27,410 --> 00:32:25,620 theory is you open up a can of worms it 738 00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:27,420 will lead other camel cans along some 739 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:28,950 other things that have to be answered 740 00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:33,450 okay like for example how could the 741 00:32:40,270 --> 00:32:36,030 species have existed you for so long 742 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:40,280 without documentation or catalog so 743 00:32:47,210 --> 00:32:44,310 definitely we're where everybody has 744 00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:47,220 this whole thing backwards because the 745 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:49,620 last time I checked these people 746 00:32:54,770 --> 00:32:51,570 salaries were paid by our tax dollars 747 00:32:57,140 --> 00:32:54,780 that these universities and a lot of 748 00:32:59,440 --> 00:32:57,150 this stuff is funded with our tax 749 00:33:02,450 --> 00:32:59,450 dollars in a lot of these foundations 750 00:33:05,060 --> 00:33:02,460 get money from you know private 751 00:33:07,790 --> 00:33:05,070 organizations unfortunately in addition 752 00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:07,800 to public funding and if you look at the 753 00:33:12,140 --> 00:33:10,320 contributions and I've done that and a 754 00:33:14,780 --> 00:33:12,150 lot of these organizations mainstream 755 00:33:17,210 --> 00:33:14,790 science you know organizations and 756 00:33:19,340 --> 00:33:17,220 foundations the majority of their 757 00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:19,350 funding is just private and when you 758 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:22,380 were into that you run into you know 759 00:33:26,510 --> 00:33:24,240 agenda problems that's the bottom line 760 00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:26,520 you know if I'm paying somebody salary 761 00:33:35,210 --> 00:33:31,970 you know well that's the theory that's 762 00:33:39,070 --> 00:33:35,220 the theory but the the proof is in is in 763 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:39,080 the action and honestly we as taxpayers 764 00:33:44,930 --> 00:33:41,730 may be funding all this but it doesn't 765 00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:44,940 look like we actually have more I can 766 00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:46,980 tell ya I can tell you from from the 767 00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:48,360 people that I talk to you like let's 768 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:50,790 just take one Park in particular let's 769 00:33:55,490 --> 00:33:52,410 talk about my office State Park okay 770 00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:55,500 there's I had an encounter in 2012 771 00:34:00,890 --> 00:33:58,320 and multiple tracks I mean it was like a 772 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:00,900 science fiction movie the entire three 773 00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:03,450 days we were there my son and I it stood 774 00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:04,710 up walked out right in front of my son 775 00:34:08,090 --> 00:34:05,940 after we trapped it and play 776 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:08,100 cat-and-mouse with it for about 45 777 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:10,770 minutes okay he insisted now he's a 778 00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:12,450 non-believer first of all he thought the 779 00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:13,740 whole thing was ridiculous but it was 780 00:34:17,930 --> 00:34:15,830 time to spend with that so we went and 781 00:34:19,610 --> 00:34:17,940 you know he was completely shocked 782 00:34:22,580 --> 00:34:19,620 because we started finding trash right 783 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:22,590 off the bat in close proximity to all of 784 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:24,690 the areas that are used and it was the 785 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:27,090 main trail in the park and we there were 786 00:34:31,850 --> 00:34:29,280 people walking by us you know right off 787 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:31,860 the side of the trail 14 inches six 788 00:34:37,970 --> 00:34:35,010 inches wide big track I mean I was like 789 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:37,980 you gotta be kidding me and we took off 790 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:40,410 in the direction of the tracks and it 791 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:42,570 was within 45 minutes that we had the 792 00:34:48,830 --> 00:34:45,510 the sightings he wanted to report it 793 00:34:51,650 --> 00:34:48,840 this is what got my hairs up on end 794 00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:51,660 about the whole issue we went to the 795 00:34:56,390 --> 00:34:53,700 forest rangers office and reported the 796 00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:56,400 camera you walked in the office just 797 00:35:00,920 --> 00:34:59,280 ahead of me so I need a pen or a pencil 798 00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:00,930 and a piece of paper because I need to 799 00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:02,400 draw something I just saw in the park 800 00:35:08,330 --> 00:35:05,430 right then the park ranger says is that 801 00:35:10,250 --> 00:35:08,340 thing still around and he's like yeah I 802 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:10,260 just saw it and I can't even believe 803 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:11,370 what's going on she's like I'm gonna 804 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:14,250 call the park biologist so she gets over 805 00:35:18,620 --> 00:35:16,170 on the phone and I've told the story a 806 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:18,630 few times and she gets on the phone and 807 00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:21,810 and our speakerphone called the 808 00:35:29,570 --> 00:35:25,110 biologist who's stationed and lives in 809 00:35:31,550 --> 00:35:29,580 the park the biologist with in well 810 00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:31,560 first of all he says well Tom it was a 811 00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:33,900 better she's like you're on speakerphone 812 00:35:36,770 --> 00:35:35,880 they're standing right here so she's 813 00:35:40,850 --> 00:35:36,780 like I'll be right over 814 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:40,860 so she comes over doesn't ask to see the 815 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,450 drawing doesn't ask what 816 00:35:45,950 --> 00:35:44,640 saw doesn't ask anything about that says 817 00:35:49,220 --> 00:35:45,960 where did you see it that was the only 818 00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:49,230 thing she said and my son was you know 819 00:35:53,089 --> 00:35:50,670 sort of the describe well it was I 820 00:35:54,890 --> 00:35:53,099 started popping questions off at her you 821 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:54,900 know like you know and I started saying 822 00:36:00,290 --> 00:35:56,490 you know you got Hamid attracts all 823 00:36:01,550 --> 00:36:00,300 through this part but we found dozens of 824 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:01,560 tracks and don't tell me you're not 825 00:36:06,319 --> 00:36:04,170 aware of this you know and she was very 826 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:06,329 pissy about that and she was basically 827 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:08,490 started taking my information and after 828 00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:10,050 me all kinds of questions about who I 829 00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:12,380 was and then I said well you know 830 00:36:16,940 --> 00:36:14,940 nothing and all that stuff and then 831 00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:16,950 she's like fine then that's all we have 832 00:36:22,730 --> 00:36:19,740 to talk about she took off but in the 833 00:36:26,089 --> 00:36:22,740 end of the day the maintenance personnel 834 00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:26,099 somebody called everybody although we 835 00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:28,140 were only witness to them calling the 836 00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,390 biologist somebody told everybody 837 00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:32,640 because there were maintenance workers 838 00:36:37,310 --> 00:36:34,980 showing up asking us questions they were 839 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:37,320 you know so they well what's going on 840 00:36:43,849 --> 00:36:41,130 and it's better it would be and I said 841 00:36:48,290 --> 00:36:43,859 this many times it's ludicrous for us to 842 00:36:51,020 --> 00:36:48,300 think that as park visitors once a year 843 00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:51,030 we can go in the park and find evidence 844 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:53,550 of this incredible species existence and 845 00:37:02,720 --> 00:36:56,130 the people that work and live in the 846 00:37:05,210 --> 00:37:02,730 park having no more we did get a 847 00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:05,220 question mark two quick um you know when 848 00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:08,460 the helicopters are over you what reason 849 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:10,079 do they give you to order you to leave 850 00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:11,490 do they give you a certain reason when 851 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:14,520 that happens well I'm obviously in an 852 00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:16,730 area not supposed to be in they have 853 00:37:23,230 --> 00:37:20,190 they have set aside a lot of water 854 00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:23,240 because for a Squatch control issues and 855 00:37:29,569 --> 00:37:26,460 so they have a tremendous flood control 856 00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:29,579 system and they've run it right through 857 00:37:34,430 --> 00:37:31,380 all of these areas that used to be prime 858 00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:34,440 habitat and basically they're like you 859 00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:36,240 know they're signs everywhere back there 860 00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,520 the problem is this is the choppers are 861 00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:40,079 all unmarked the vehicles that have 862 00:37:45,620 --> 00:37:43,140 followed me have never once they're not 863 00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:45,630 they're unmarked first of all which is a 864 00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:47,460 little unnerving when you're back there 865 00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:49,680 and there's an unmarked truck you know a 866 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:51,510 black truck with ten window you can't 867 00:37:54,820 --> 00:37:53,490 see through mm-hmm you know that just 868 00:37:56,980 --> 00:37:54,830 comes like 50 869 00:37:58,450 --> 00:37:56,990 behind you and follows you out never 870 00:38:00,940 --> 00:37:58,460 comes up and says anything to you you 871 00:38:04,030 --> 00:38:00,950 know that's happened so many times all I 872 00:38:06,190 --> 00:38:04,040 know is is that you know once I started 873 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:06,200 to see those things you know I'm picking 874 00:38:10,270 --> 00:38:07,730 up on all that and I'm just like I'm 875 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:10,280 going home I'm writing you know and I'm 876 00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:11,930 calling these parks back you know you 877 00:38:15,610 --> 00:38:14,000 know just week after we had the sighting 878 00:38:16,810 --> 00:38:15,620 with my son I called the same park back 879 00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:16,820 and they said that there was no such 880 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:23,270 report then they try to charge me the 881 00:38:30,990 --> 00:38:25,610 next time I wanted to go in they upped 882 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:33,610 trying to price you out of going into 883 00:38:37,210 --> 00:38:34,450 the park 884 00:38:39,370 --> 00:38:37,220 exactly any denied me my primitive chant 885 00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:39,380 spot which was clearly open because I 886 00:38:43,210 --> 00:38:40,790 talked to one person who didn't know 887 00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:43,220 where I was booked the campsite in 888 00:38:46,030 --> 00:38:43,910 advance 889 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:46,040 it was clearly open she booked it for me 890 00:38:48,820 --> 00:38:47,570 the next morning I got a phone call so 891 00:38:51,070 --> 00:38:48,830 that I wasn't going to be able to get 892 00:38:52,690 --> 00:38:51,080 that site and that they were going to 893 00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:52,700 need to talk with me about my future 894 00:38:59,740 --> 00:38:58,490 visits oh yeah so you know it's 895 00:39:02,080 --> 00:38:59,750 different from my point of view because 896 00:39:04,420 --> 00:39:02,090 in the end of the day this situation 897 00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:04,430 down here is different then the vast 898 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:06,230 majority of situations that I read about 899 00:39:10,420 --> 00:39:07,970 and I talk to people about I've talked 900 00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:10,430 to hundreds of people most of the time 901 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:12,320 they're so far out of the middle of 902 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:12,770 nowhere 903 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:15,050 that they're you know they're there are 904 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:16,910 no danger of seeing a ranger or a 905 00:39:22,030 --> 00:39:19,370 wildlife officer whereas down here 906 00:39:23,650 --> 00:39:22,040 the public has encroached in so many 907 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:23,660 areas that they've had to set these 908 00:39:28,030 --> 00:39:25,970 areas aside for one reason or another 909 00:39:30,250 --> 00:39:28,040 they've done that and they are manned 910 00:39:33,940 --> 00:39:30,260 and they are being watched 911 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:33,950 period that is my conclusion it's all 912 00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:35,930 sounds like them the minute their 913 00:39:39,970 --> 00:39:37,240 version of the men in black they're 914 00:39:42,820 --> 00:39:39,980 watching you know all this Bigfoot in 915 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:42,830 crypto stuff from a distance well you 916 00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:45,050 know I mean I can't put I can't point 917 00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:46,520 the finger and say that that's what 918 00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:48,140 they're doing right all I can tell you 919 00:39:53,590 --> 00:39:49,670 is this is what's been happening to me 920 00:39:56,110 --> 00:39:53,600 and two plus two is four right you know 921 00:39:59,020 --> 00:39:56,120 in my mind I'm not one of those guys I 922 00:40:00,700 --> 00:39:59,030 followed that lead so far down the trail 923 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:00,710 and I've been so far down the rabbit 924 00:40:06,250 --> 00:40:03,650 hole this thing that I basically had to 925 00:40:08,590 --> 00:40:06,260 shut my show down I have show crypto 926 00:40:10,810 --> 00:40:08,600 reality and 927 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:10,820 and I was threatened my computers were 928 00:40:14,290 --> 00:40:13,850 hacked I mean it went it went dad for me 929 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:14,300 for a while 930 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:16,370 I'm just now actually getting back on my 931 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:19,130 feet to where you know I think my 932 00:40:23,290 --> 00:40:20,810 computers working you know I'm by other 933 00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:23,300 like I've gone through three androids in 934 00:40:28,570 --> 00:40:26,720 the last four months to where I mean 935 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,580 it's just ridiculous but you know I was 936 00:40:32,860 --> 00:40:31,040 actually on the case with the National 937 00:40:35,050 --> 00:40:32,870 Academy of Sciences because they were 938 00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:35,060 subverting the study the catch of study 939 00:40:40,990 --> 00:40:38,240 so I was all up turn behinds about that 940 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:41,000 and in with my show using my show as a 941 00:40:46,090 --> 00:40:43,730 platform to promote public involvement 942 00:40:48,490 --> 00:40:46,100 with the study so we could force them to 943 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:48,500 do a publicly transparent peer review 944 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:50,450 mm-hmm right and that's when it all went 945 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:52,970 south for me but you know I written a 946 00:40:56,290 --> 00:40:54,530 report a few guys did you get a chance 947 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:56,300 to read the report didn't get a chance 948 00:41:01,480 --> 00:40:58,090 yet mark but I'm gonna get to it yeah 949 00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:01,490 it's interesting man I mean you know 950 00:41:08,530 --> 00:41:03,920 it's very common sense and I'm not I'm 951 00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:08,540 not necessarily I'm not necessarily you 952 00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:10,190 know for some I hope who uses on people 953 00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:12,950 but I'm just saying if you ask some real 954 00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:16,070 simple questions like you know they 955 00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:18,230 study mountain lions and they study they 956 00:41:24,070 --> 00:41:20,990 put more money into snail research than 957 00:41:27,730 --> 00:41:24,080 they do into you know something that's 958 00:41:30,220 --> 00:41:27,740 so important I mean really what we're 959 00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,230 talking about here is the existence of 960 00:41:35,890 --> 00:41:32,240 another possibly the existence of 961 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:35,900 another species of human typing what 962 00:41:41,620 --> 00:41:38,570 could be more pertinent to human 963 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:41,630 existence then not being alone on planet 964 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:46,250 earth and people will consistently you 965 00:41:52,030 --> 00:41:48,770 know downplay this issue and promote the 966 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:52,040 dumb ape theory yeah I had a say stand 967 00:41:57,900 --> 00:41:54,650 between 30 yards over 40 feet away from 968 00:42:00,840 --> 00:41:57,910 me in the brush and mock me 969 00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:00,850 exactly in the same exact tone I used 970 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:04,700 only on the last part of the call he 971 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:08,930 added sarcasm and that's no that's no 972 00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:13,970 joke okay I mean this is not a dumb 973 00:42:17,350 --> 00:42:14,720 animal 974 00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:17,360 this is I agree with Native Americans 975 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:20,510 you know this is uh this is a people a 976 00:42:26,110 --> 00:42:21,890 wild people you 977 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:26,120 I mark I found a found of video on your 978 00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:28,850 on your Facebook page and I needed to 979 00:42:33,070 --> 00:42:31,280 ask you whether or not that was you or 980 00:42:37,110 --> 00:42:33,080 this is something you just posted it 981 00:42:40,540 --> 00:42:37,120 says Sasquatch speaks we're all that 982 00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:40,550 that's that's some of the other 983 00:42:44,890 --> 00:42:42,310 researchers that you know I've been 984 00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:44,900 talking to and have been involved with 985 00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:47,150 in you know checking out their field 986 00:42:54,220 --> 00:42:50,480 research I have a YouTube page you can 987 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:54,230 go to Zak man on YouTube and nurse all 988 00:42:58,270 --> 00:42:55,730 kinds of I'm a musician and I'm 989 00:43:01,780 --> 00:42:58,280 professional fisherman as well but I do 990 00:43:04,510 --> 00:43:01,790 also have most of the Mayaka footage is 991 00:43:06,610 --> 00:43:04,520 in there the tracks you know I mean we 992 00:43:08,170 --> 00:43:06,620 we missed it by maybe three seconds 993 00:43:12,070 --> 00:43:08,180 catching on film he got a view of it 994 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:12,080 from about 30 yards away for about four 995 00:43:15,610 --> 00:43:13,850 to six seconds it just walked right out 996 00:43:18,070 --> 00:43:15,620 in front of them in between two big palm 997 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:18,080 trees look right at him and then did a 998 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:22,570 90 and kept going along the side of this 999 00:43:30,310 --> 00:43:27,770 huge patch of saw palmetto that we had 1000 00:43:31,870 --> 00:43:30,320 just gone through and we were cut up and 1001 00:43:34,930 --> 00:43:31,880 it was just the whole thing is like 1002 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:34,940 surreal I mean that the same night we 1003 00:43:40,420 --> 00:43:36,650 went back at like 2:30 in the morning 1004 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:40,430 and and there was things jumping out of 1005 00:43:46,270 --> 00:43:43,610 trees that were basically lying the 1006 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:46,280 ground I mean we were on a dock or a 1007 00:43:52,330 --> 00:43:48,530 bird walked up that led to an island and 1008 00:43:56,110 --> 00:43:52,340 I had made some calls and this thing the 1009 00:43:57,910 --> 00:43:56,120 ground shook so I mean the dock vibrated 1010 00:44:00,460 --> 00:43:57,920 my son was like I want to go home now 1011 00:44:03,340 --> 00:44:00,470 you know and it was like that freaky but 1012 00:44:06,250 --> 00:44:03,350 the whole place and there you know I'm 1013 00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:06,260 doing the documentary now okay and I'm 1014 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:08,510 going to cover all of this in depth in 1015 00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:11,450 this documentary and I'm hoping that I 1016 00:44:17,020 --> 00:44:14,960 can get you know somebody from you know 1017 00:44:19,630 --> 00:44:17,030 from the park park officials somebody to 1018 00:44:21,850 --> 00:44:19,640 come forward and at least get honest 1019 00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:21,860 about this because I said you know I 1020 00:44:26,650 --> 00:44:24,380 mean you know the media's plays up you 1021 00:44:28,570 --> 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